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Horse Meat found In hamburgers in UK and Ireland

by Pterist in

london (cnn) -- uk food safety officials have ordered the testing of all beef products following the discovery of horsemeat in beef lasagna sold by uk firm findus, only weeks after many meat lovers were dismayed to learn horse and pig dna had been found in burgers.. http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/08/world/europe/uk-horsemeat-probe/index.html.

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Out our way the dutch love their horse meat. First time I saw horse steaks in the grocery store grossed me out. But then again, some butchers will sell you salami and not tell you it's really donkey meat. Cheaper to make. In China they eat dog. Take your pick

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Carnival of the god forsaken

by Borges in

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as it is carnival season in germany and the daughter of my girl-friend is in a dance group that performs at carnival sessions, we went today to see her appearance, not knowing that it took place in a home for mentally handicapped people.. the hall wasnt that big, maybe room for one hundred people, but it was crowded.

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Borges, I commend you for going and being not only apart of your daughters life but the life of all those people. I grew up with two handicapped siblings. One died at eleven. He would take up to fifty-two seizures in a day. Twice I remember the ambulance taking him away in the middle of the night and then he lived out his last year at sick childrens hospital. He had insephilitus of the brain set in and later bled to death. I have another sister who is in a home where they really do care for these guys. She has cerebral palsy, rare eye disorder where eyes shake along with the whole body non stop and is mentally handicapped as well. She's in her mid fifty's now. She went into the home after mom took her own life with an overdose. Now my sister is ageing ontop of her disabilities and I just wonder trying to make sense of all of this. I just can't. I remember taking my sister to the hall before I stopped going and only one kind sister came over and held her hand as I went to the bathroom and cried. People just stood at a distance and stared and it made me feel awkward. When I saw how tough life can be for some and then I see all sorts of rubbish and backbiteing going on over petty crap in the congregations, I said to myself I don't have time for this. When you hear from the platform that half of us are here to torment the other half I asked myself what does my sister and others in the home think about. Probably when is their next meal, or next bath, You know, just wondering how to survive and when will a family member come to visit. My family members say they can't bring themselves to going in these places with these kind of freaks and yes those were the exact words they used. My handicapp sister will rock back and forth on her bed with a smile and can't wait for them to come and visit. It's been almost thirty years and still no visit from any of them. I admire people who can look for the good in others. I still want to look for the good in god and believe he'll do right even if it meant me dieing in order for her to live. That was nice you went. The other kids in the home will not forget you.

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What good is the holy spirit if,,,,,

by label licker in

it's the faithful and discreet slave that directs the governing body when they come together to change or add a new doctrine???

how did they come up with this one when it's always been the holy spirit doing the directing or is every word in the bible going to have a new job description meaning???????????????

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THEN WHAT GOOD IS THE HOLY SPIRIT? is my question and what purpose does it serve?

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What good is the holy spirit if,,,,,

by label licker in

it's the faithful and discreet slave that directs the governing body when they come together to change or add a new doctrine???

how did they come up with this one when it's always been the holy spirit doing the directing or is every word in the bible going to have a new job description meaning???????????????

?.

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it's the faithful and discreet slave that directs the governing body when they come together to change or add a new doctrine??? How did they come up with this one when it's always been the holy spirit doing the directing or is every word in the bible going to have a new job description meaning????????????????

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Double standards for elders?

by El_Guapo in

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i read a post on this site that said that there is a double standard for elders as opposed to regular r&f publishers.

can't seem to find it now, but i believe it was in the elders manual stating this....... thinking back, i can vividly remember one instance: the po's (a superstar in the district) daughter was getting married.

she was marrying a "brother" who was only baptized but 3 months, yet the were able to use the hall for their wedding.. another brother in our hall (about 2 years later) was planning on getting married, he asked for permission to use the hall for his wedding and was told that his service hours were too low (he was averaging about 3-5 hours a month) i asked him later why he was so pissed at the elders and he said this was the reason.. has anyone else ever noticed this "double-standard"?.

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Just in one hall and on one body of elders: The cobe had two sons. The older one dinky dipped before he got married and his younger brother got caught with dirty pics of himself with others on facebook(now removed). Their reward was bethel but younger one was asked to leave bethel once they caught wind of what he did and the older one fessed up after his stay and was no longer pioneer or ms. He wasn't allowed to get married in the hall but wasn't made public untill the day of the wedding and a big sign was put on the kingdom hall doors that the wedding would be at a certain address with maps under a big rock for people to take. Cobe's relative who also was on the body of elders was caught underage drinking but able to pioneer. Cobe knew about a brother who was living commonlaw with a worldly woman and covered it up. He even gave a local needs on marrying outside of the lord. Hypocrite! Plus, his son makes it on the news doing over 200kms and when the police tried to catch him he sped up. He even made the news stations. Nothing happened. Move to another hall and an elder there has a sixteen yearold daughter pregnant, brings worldly boyfriend to memorial and elder gets to say the closeing prayer. Then we have a brother who doesn't come to the meetings, he's df'd, gets reinstated so hopefully his wife won't leave him, after he's reinstated he smashes his wifes car by hand, gets a worldly girl that works for him to forge a legal document and is still coming on to his female staff and nothing is done. He gets all elders doteing on him. These guys must think we've all gone to idiot school or something.

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not ready to go over to the "dark side"

by nowwhat? in

after spending a lifetime in it, no one is as fed up with the wt as i am.

[my golf game would have been a hell of alot better if i was'nt banging my head against the wall on saturdays!

lol ] this forum has taught me alot more than i thought to confirm my suspicions.

label licker

Idol:an image or object considered as a god, and worshiped as having divine powers, objects of infatuation, a false or misleading idea, a fallacy Idolater: One who worships an idol, a blindly devoted admirer Idolatrous: Blindly devoted Idolatry: Excessive or undiscerning admiration, blind infatuation Idolism: A false idea, to love or admire blindly or to excess You decide who or what's the darkside. Hope this helps you find your answer

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THE OX and THE TRUTH

by Terry in

sometimes an ox gets sick and dies.. .

when your ox dies you don't just lose an ox.. nope.. you lose all the money you spent on that ox.. you lose all the feed you ever fed it.. you lose the time spent taking care of it.. this includes any veteranarian bills as well.. you can't eat the meat from a dead sick ox either, so, you lose the meal or the sale of the meat as well!.

what about using that chain of reasoning on the truth (or so-called) of jehovah's witnesses.. .

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And when that farmer goes to bury his animal he makes sure it's not near water sources where it could contaminate drinking water and has to be deep enough due to killer gases like anthrax or disseases. Ummm, didn't I read on Marvin Shilmers site that brooklyn got caught with burying ink containers near water sources and were fined? They should practice what they preach about making this earth a paradise or has that light changed? I'll stick with the ox too!

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not ready to go over to the "dark side"

by nowwhat? in

after spending a lifetime in it, no one is as fed up with the wt as i am.

[my golf game would have been a hell of alot better if i was'nt banging my head against the wall on saturdays!

lol ] this forum has taught me alot more than i thought to confirm my suspicions.

label licker

I always thought you had to belong to the self appointed org but not so. The question shouldn't be to where should I go but it's to whom shall I go to. It's not untill the end when Jesus comes back that he will give us that knowledge along with the two witnesses whom by the way is not the witnesses or their conventions or whatever they claim it is

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What is your religious belief now?

by jwfacts in

i have a new poll at jwfacts.mobi/pollsarchive/ as i am very interested to see what people have moved on to believe.

as this is considered sensitive by some, you can answer anonymously at the jwfacts.mobi/pollsarchive/, or answer on this thread.

this is what i have created in the list, but feel free to add comments, corrections, or options i have missed.. .

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Learning at home Messianic Hebrew. Realised one day how Jesus kept all the sabbaths and feasts and wondered if he had done away with it then why did Mary, Paul and others keep it after he died and why in Zech 14:16-19 it talks about keeping the feast of booths in the millinium? Starting from the beginning of the bible and listening to hebrew scholars ect.. When I asked all I got was "what are you saying" and "what are you reading". I said the bible ONLY. I wonder if that's what was meant following in his footsteps closely besides telling others. So, yeah we're on a journey but one promise for sure I can make is I will never ever belong to an organisation or church or hand my spiritual freedom over to anyone else except to Christ and Yehovah and let my conscience and the bible teach me. It's soooo nice to pick a book I want to read on a certain subject and not get scared. What the hell was that?????? After seeing the TTATT I couldn't go back and now showing others they say they don't know where their place is for they can't go back either. It only takes a one stop look at these sites and your biscuits are baked. You guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

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Will the 'Make Good Use of Our Official Website' discussion backfire?

by jw07 in

good day everyone,.

i'm a born in jehovah's hostage, and am still a hostage until i can wake my family up (wishful thinking i know).

i'll formally introduce myself later.. for now i have some burning concerns about the service meeting part for the week of december 24, 2012.

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Can't wait to hear feed back when the householder asks you into their home and start asking questions about 1914, Michael and other things while stareing at their laptop on the table. That's what happened to us last March. I got up to see why he was asking those questions and low and behold he was reading from Johnny the bethelite. I went home and googled it and one of the links lead me to other sites. I knew I was done then and there. Got on the phone and asked a family that I'm close to if they ever saw these sites and the answer was yes and they also are done.

It will be interesting to see what happens when a jw is asked in to their homes, though, take off their shoes and coats, just get comfortable and the householder does to them what happened to us. We were like what the??????? I look back and laugh now about it but all it takes is one site or one bite of the fruit and your done.